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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
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Following from my previous post on logo basics even some graphic designers forget, here are some things to consider when approaching a graphic designer to create a logo for you.&#160;
But before we start&#8230;
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Why give your logo designer a brief?
	
A friend of mine recently approached a graphic designer to create a logo for his new business.&#160; [...]]]></description>
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<p>Following from my previous post on <a href="http://mymarketingthing.com/branding-and-logo-design/logo-basics-that-even-some-graphic-designers-forget/">logo basics even some graphic designers forget</a>, here are some things to consider when approaching a graphic designer to create a logo for you.&nbsp;</p>
<p>But before we start&#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Why give your logo designer a brief?<br />
	</strong></p>
<p>A friend of mine recently approached a graphic designer to create a logo for his new business.&nbsp; He told the designer the name of the business and described the service he provided. &nbsp;Then he said, &#39;Go for it&#39; &#8211; i.e. the designer was to present a wide range of branding ideas.&nbsp;</p>
<p>What came back was two pages of half-baked concepts, none of which my friend was remotely happy with.&nbsp; From my experience, this result was not surprising.</p>
<p>I could understand the guy&#39;s logic.&nbsp; An open slather brainstorm can often bring about amazingly creative ideas.&nbsp; But the brainstorm needs to come from a strong foundation. And what you ultimately want is a strong presentation from the designer with a logo that will work. &nbsp;</p>
<p>The designer needs to know all kinds of things to create that happy outcome. &nbsp;And contrary to popular opinion, graphic designers don&#39;t have ESP.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Does the designer already have a creative brief form?</strong></p>
<p>Before writing your brief<strong>, </strong>ask the designer if they have a creative brief questionnaire.&nbsp; This document will assist in preparing answers that will inform their approach.&nbsp; Some designers don&#39;t have this template set up.&nbsp; Don&#39;t ask me why.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Who is a logo for? </strong></p>
<p>
	No, it&#39;s not all about you.&nbsp; Naturally it is important to be comfortable with your logo, but don&rsquo;t think that it should be purple because purple is your favourite colour.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Your logo is one very powerful way of making a connection to those you want to reach.&nbsp; So think about what are they going to be attracted to.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>List the basics of your business:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>What is your business name and tag line?</li>
<li>What is your core service(s) and/or product(s)?</li>
<li>Who is your target market? (list demographics like age, income and geographic area)</li>
<li>Who is your competition and what makes you different from them? (copy and paste business logo designs from your competitor&#39;s websites, so the graphic designer knows how to differentiate your business from theirs)</li>
</ul>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Explore your logo&#39;s logistics:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>How is the logo likely be used? (consider letterhead, business cards, website, signage, stickers for packaging, ink stamps, pens, t-shirts, embroidered on uniforms, billboards, television, etc.)</li>
<li>Are you likely to need sub-branding? (i.e. a logo for each of your products/services)</li>
</ul>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp; <br />
	<strong>What are some key words that convey what your business represents?</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Some examples: nurturing, reliable, secure, feminine, lush, hygenic, fun, creative, practical, resourceful, friendly, etc.</li>
</ul>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Already have some ideas?<br />
	</strong></p>
<p>
	If you have some visual concepts in mind, sketch them out.&nbsp; It doesn&rsquo;t matter if you think you can&rsquo;t draw.&nbsp; Any indication is further information for your graphic designer.&nbsp; </p>
<p>	<em>Important note: Just because you come up with a concept doesn&#39;t mean this is what the logo will end up being.&nbsp; Your designer may think up something completely different that works ten times better. &nbsp;Well, you would hope so. &nbsp;It&#39;s what they do for a living after all.&nbsp; </em></p>
<p>When non-designers have design ideas for their business, it is best to get them out in the open.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; So the concept can be discussed.&nbsp; Your idea might be useful to the process&#8230;or, at least the exercise gives your designer an opportunity to explain why you idea is appalling (hopefully they&#39;ll do this nicely while offering chocolate or a tumbler of whiskey).&nbsp; Then you will be able to move onto other, decent ideas.</p>
<p><em><br />
	</em></p>
<p><strong>Changing an existing logo?<br />
	</strong></p>
<p>If you already have a logo, ask yourself the following:</p>
<ul>
<li>What are the elements that are already successful?&nbsp;</li>
<li>Why do you think they are successful?&nbsp;</li>
<li>What elements do you want to change?</li>
<li>Why do you want to change them?</li>
</ul>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><b>What do you expect at &#39;Presentation Time&#39; from your designer?&nbsp;</b></p>
<p>My two cents: three deeply considered logo concepts from your graphic designer is generally better than a multitude of possible ideas.</p>
<p>A couple of dollars worth of two cents (I&#39;ve addressed these points &#8211; and more &#8211; in the previous post, but they are important):</p>
<ul>
<li>Have the logo(s) presented in different sizes (really, really small is important)</li>
<li>Have the logo(s) presented&nbsp;as black &amp; white versions</li>
<li>Have the logo(s) presented&nbsp;in a corporate material context (e.g. business card layout)</li>
<li>Have the logo(s) printed on different kinds of paper (newsprint, glossy, etc.)</li>
<li>Make sure you see how it looks on a computer screen (sight colour variations between printing and screen are usual in these instances)</li>
</ul>
<p>And make sure you own the copyright to whatever design is decided upon.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Wrapping up</strong></p>
<p>Gathering as much information as possible in advance before briefing a designer not only helps with initial discussions, it also assists with potential negotiations later if the designer has strayed off the brief.&nbsp;</p>
<p>So be painstakingly detailed in your brief.&nbsp; Throw all your thoughts down &#8211; even though you will be welcoming new ideas from the designer&#8230;.won&#39;t you?</p>
<p>And be nice to designers.&nbsp; Even if they look strong and assertive, deep down they are usually gentle, sensitive souls.&nbsp; And this sensitivity is a good thing.&nbsp; If they weren&#39;t, their powers of creativity would be dramatically diminished. &nbsp;And that would be our loss.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic; ">This article was written by Megan Hills. &nbsp;Megan is a writer, marketing consultant and cartoonist. &nbsp;Megan thinks that graphic designers who are able to create logos that are highly creative AND work logistically AND are relevant to the business&#39; purpose are the Zen Masters of our time. &nbsp;<a href="http://mymarketingthing.com/about/">Read more about Megan</a></span></p>
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		<title>Logo basics that even some graphic designers forget</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
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A good logo is a simple one. &#160;That doesn&#39;t mean designing a logo is simple. &#160;In fact, it&#39;s the cr&#232;me de la cr&#232;me of graphic design.
Your logo &#8211; as simple and sweet as it may be &#8211; needs to do a number of things:

reflect your business accurately
work logistically in every format
look different from everyone else
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<p><strong>A good logo is a simple one. &nbsp;That doesn&#39;t mean designing a logo is simple. &nbsp;In fact, it&#39;s the cr&egrave;me de la cr&egrave;me of graphic design.</strong></p>
<p>Your logo &#8211; as simple and sweet as it may be &#8211; needs to do a number of things:</p>
<ol>
<li>reflect your business accurately</li>
<li>work logistically in every format</li>
<li>look different from everyone else</li>
<li>be appealing to the folks you want to reach</li>
</ol>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because of all these considerations, it is a good idea to hire a graphic designer to create your logo. &nbsp;You want to look spiffy, don&#39;t you? &nbsp;An amateur job is not the go for something that is so important. &nbsp;You need make a good first impression. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p>Still, even if you have a great graphic designer enlisted to help, it doesn&#39;t hurt to know some things about logo design yourself before kicking-off.</p>
<p>
	&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Between you and me&#8230; </strong></p>
<p><strong><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; ">&#8230;I&#39;m a little shocked at how many graphic designers I&#39;ve come across who don&#39;t take the logo basics into account. &nbsp;Because I couldn&#39;t help myself, I made a pretty bold statement about these kinds of graphic designers on the website <a href="http://www.flyingsolo.com.au/">Flying Solo</a>. Predictably, the article received a ton of flack from furious creative souls. &nbsp;</span></strong></p>
<p><em><strong><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; ">Blog tip: Writing contentious articles is a great way to attract &#39;comments&#39;.</span></strong></em></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Moving right along&#8230;<br />
	</strong></p>
<p>Below are some considerations that might help guide you (and your designer) towards a logo that is both practical and powerful: &nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>What is a logo?</strong></p>
<p>When people think &#39;logo&#39; they generally think of the symbol that appears next to (or under or above) the business name. &nbsp;But your logo could just be your business name in a particular font, sporting particular colours. &nbsp;</p>
<p>Or you can have a graphic as part of your business name, rather than beside it. &nbsp;</p>
<p><em>Warning: &nbsp;Be wary of&nbsp;graphics that break up the business name, rather than pull the visual together in a neat package. &nbsp;Breaking up the business name can send a &#39;scattered&#39; message. &nbsp;</em></p>
<p>How you choose to approach the basic nature of the logo design depends on:</p>
<ul>
<li>what you want to communicate (i.e. your key message)</li>
<li>who you are communicating to (i.e. the people you want to buy your gear)</li>
<li>how the logo is likely to be used (i.e. what promotional formats this baby will appear on)</li>
</ul>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Do you need a symbol?</strong></p>
<p>Logo symbols can be a great way pack a punch for your brand. &nbsp;They often sit on the left hand side of the business name&nbsp;(like your business&#39; right hand man). &nbsp;Symbols can be handy for favicons (otherwise known as a &#39;website icon&#39; or &#39;bookmark icon&#39; i.e. the little round symbol that can appear before your website address on a web browser). &nbsp;</p>
<p>They can also appear as a watermark design behind text in promotional material or on a product packaging tag.</p>
<p>There are all manner of ways a logo symbol can be used to help your branding along. &nbsp;But not everyone feels the urge to have one and that&#39;s okay too.</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Some more design tips:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="color:#b22222;"><strong>Make the logo design simple </strong></span>- The simpler, the more powerful. &nbsp;Instant recognition is the name the logo game (look at the logos of major banks and telephone companies &#8211; as evil as they might be, these businesses generally have the simple logo thing sussed).<br />
		&nbsp;</li>
<li><span style="color:#b22222;"><strong>Keep the number of colours used to a minimum</strong></span>&nbsp;- Aim for two colours maximum, not including white, and avoid subtle tonal changes.<br />
		&nbsp;</li>
<li><strong><span style="color:#b22222;">Avoid metallic colours</span></strong>&nbsp;- They require expensive inks/stock and don&#39;t translate well on computer/TV screens (e.g. copper will convert to a murky brown on your website).</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="color:#b22222;"><strong>Do you have a tag line (slogan)?</strong></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;- If so, have a version of your logo with your tag line.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="color:#b22222;"><strong>Avoid hairlines </strong></span>&ndash; Thin lines can get lost in photocopying, on television and on computer screens.<br />
		&nbsp;</li>
<li><span style="color:#b22222;"><strong>Test the logo&rsquo;s appearance</strong></span>: &nbsp;Fax it, photocopy it, print it out, look at it on your computer monitor.</li>
<li>
<p><span style="color:#b22222;"><strong>Does it reduce well in size?</strong></span> &nbsp;What can you see when your logo is 3cms in width &#8211; or even smaller?</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><span style="color:#b22222;"><strong>Check it out in different formats</strong></span>: See how it will look on letterhead, with comp slips, business cards, order forms, packaging, web page, newsprint, glossy paper.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><span style="color:#b22222;"><strong>Consider appearance beyond corporate material:</strong></span>&nbsp;As&nbsp;an ink stamp, in a small black &amp; white newspaper ad, on a billboard, embroidered on a uniform or printed on a promotional t-shirt, etc. &nbsp;</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><span style="color:#b22222;"><strong>If the logo is one colour, have a reverse colour option</strong></span>&nbsp;- If blue on white, for example, check out the white on blue option.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Ensure your designer gives you a <span style="color:#b22222;"><strong>black &amp; white version </strong></span>of the logo (if you have a colour logo).</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Also have a <span style="color:#b22222;"><strong>black &amp; white inverse option</strong></span>&nbsp;- White on black/black on white.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Consider having <span style="color:#b22222;"><strong>both horizontal and vertical versions</strong></span> to accommodate different layout demands.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p><strong><span style="color:#b22222;">Consider &#39;long-range&#39; identification </span></strong>- If street signage, expo signage, event banners, and/or uniforms spotted easily in a crowd will be important to your business, consider your logo to be a light colour (or white) on a strong background colour for it to be seen quickly and easily from a distance.&nbsp;</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>A couple of legal tips</strong></p>
<p>Make sure the design hasn&rsquo;t already been trademarked by someone else. &nbsp;And check that you own the design, not your designer &ndash; ensure the copyright ownership is documented and signed by both of you.&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Wrapping up</strong></p>
<p>When satisfied with your logo design, make sure your logo appears on EVERYTHING. Business cards, letterhead, signage, packaging, e-mail signature, advertising &#8211; the works.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Familiarity creates trust (unless your logo appears on the news in relation to something really bad). &nbsp;So don&rsquo;t be shy, go forth and&nbsp;shamelessly&nbsp;stamp your logo about the place.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Next?</strong></p>
<p>Next I will write a post on how to brief your designer. &nbsp;It is likely to involve chocolate, so stay posted (boom boom). &nbsp;</p>
<p>Maybe even consider subscribing to My Marketing Thing&#8230;.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic; ">This article was written by Megan Hills. &nbsp;Megan is a writer, marketing consultant and cartoonist. &nbsp;Despite popular opinion, she also has friends that are graphic designers. &nbsp;<a href="http://mymarketingthing.com/about/">Read more about Megan</a></span></p>
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